That said, I did not infer the same meaning from Mr. Durbin's comments as you did. I thought the statement you are referring to was just an example he used to illustrate his point. Either way, the world is full of people that ignore professional advice. That does not make the people who give it failures, in my opinion.

As for how Mr. Durbin spends his free time, that falls outside the scope, and interest, of this blog.